I purchased Flanders "Classic Beef Patties" omgosh! Have you read your ingredients (?) "WHERES THE BEEF" fat (yep) all of them. Sodium 30% really? I finally figured out what the problem was I bought the WRONG box of patties. You CAN'T put these on the grill, can't fry in a cast iron skillet, they burn immediately. So, won't purchase again unless free and hopefully I just bought the defeat box. Leellette Recommendation: Don't sell "soylent green"!